On this week’s Bespoke Parenting Hour, host Julie Gunlock talks to Rachel Gerli, co-founder of Primerrily, an exciting and much-needed organization dedicated to providing parents educational resources to help push back on the liberal indoctrination that’s become common in the public schools today. Rachel and Julie share their own experiences as moms and homeschoolers and discuss why raising kids with character-building virtues and foundational American values will help them develop into healthy, happy, productive adults.

Transcript

Julie:

Hey everyone. I’m Julie Gunlock, your host for the 12th episode of the Bespoke Parenting Hour and the second one for this year, 2021. For any new listeners we have out there, this podcast is focused on how parents can custom tailor their parenting style to fit what’s best for their families, themselves, and most importantly, their kids. So since the last show, quite a bit of news has happened. President Joe Biden is now president. He was sworn into office and former President Trump has been impeached by the House for the second time. It looks like again for the second time, the Senate will not hold an impeachment trial.

They’re continuing problems with vaccine delivery. There are delays, shortages, doses reaching the use-by date, and then having to be thrown away. Even some random guy, I think he was a pharmacist, I don’t know where intentionally threw some away so he’s sitting in jail now. Sadly, as far as this sort of unintentional delays and shortages, President Biden has decided to tighten federal control over the vaccines, but that’s not going to make things any better. A lot of people don’t know kind of the circumstances of the vaccine rollout. And I’ll try to sort of giving a quick explanation here.

When the FDA approved the two vaccines that are currently in use, the Trump administration decided that States were the only ones who could buy the vaccine. Okay? So a state, then a governor, a state agency then buy millions of doses and it goes out to the state. but then the States then decide who gets the doses to actually inject into the arms of patients.

And so, what it’s created is sort of a state control situation where States set up vaccine centers or decide where, and who is injecting the vaccine into the arms of patients, instead of allowing private medical facilities or your own private practice or hospitals to also purchase. Think about the normal vaccine. You take your child to your pediatrician to get the MMR vaccine or you yourself go to your own private doctor or CVS to get the flu vaccine. That’s not what’s happening here. Instead of allowing multiple private medical facilities and hospitals, instead of allowing them to or also to buy the vaccine, it’s entirely in state control.

So, what you’ve got here is a real log jam, and sadly by putting it back into fully federal control. I mean, it was great that the Trump administration said, “Look, we want the States to figure this out.” But what happened is that governors and a lot of local politicians, mayors, what have you, put in a lot of regulations and red tape. What needs to happen is that we need to open up the vaccine buying options to more medical facilities. And we need to encourage governors to cut the red tape. I mean, Cuomo has put in so many restrictions on who can inject the … And obviously the normal safety requirements will still be in place, but this is what is really mucking it up. And Biden’s solution is not going to make it better.

I bring this up only because these delays in the vaccine delivery, it’s not helping the school situation. And this is very important to parents. Many public schools, including the public school in my town, which I am starting to believe will never open again, which I’m not sure that’s a bad thing. They are still closed, okay? And again, newly sworn-in President Biden decides he’s going to save the day. So he says, “It’s okay, folks, I’m in charge. And I have pledged to open schools in 100 days,” which is hilarious considering that’s when summer break starts. So thanks, Joe. That’s really helpful.

Related to this, teachers’ unions around the country are saying that they don’t even think school should open in the fall. Okay, the fall. And this is after the teachers have been fully vaccinated. Okay? I just want to focus on that issue for one more second, because I’m a little wound up about this issue. You have teachers and school officials being prioritized for the vaccine. Okay? They are at the tippy top of the list. Okay? They go to the top of the line. Okay? Many of them are young, healthy teachers and they are getting the vaccine ahead of elderly, ahead of the elderly, and those with diseases that put them at high risk of death, high risk of death, and hospitalizations if they can track COVID.

So now after getting the vaccine, they’re now saying they’re not going to go back in the classroom. It is absolutely monstrous. And I want to point out an article written by my colleague, Amber Schwartz. She wrote about the unfairness of this situation over at the IWF blogs. So go to iwf.org and check out this article. And the reason it matters to Amber is that her parents are 73 and 80, and in addition, her mother has asthma, very serious asthma. Her parents just contracted COVID, okay? And they’re fighting it and they’re at home, and they’re doing well.

But think about what it means to people like Amber and Amber’s siblings, to know that her parents were passed up for the vaccine by teachers who now say they won’t go back in the classroom. It’s just unbelievably outrageous. And I think this is something that’s really angering the public. And of course, on top of all of that, we know that the schools are not the problem when it comes to the spread of COVID. We know that schools can open safely. In fact, many have already and almost all private schools are open. I mean, I’ve got a private school that is around the block, a private school that’s open that is literally around the block from the public school in my neighborhood, which is closed. It’s insane.

So again, this is sort of related. Vaccine delays and who gets the vaccine and how it relates to schools. These are all things that parents are really concerned about. Schools are not just being closed. I think there was a lot of sympathy at first. I think there was even sympathy in the fall. But this unwillingness, this sort of stubbornness about keeping the schools closed, I think it has led a lot of people who never would have considered it before to consider homeschooling and also private schools. I think for a lot of people, private schools are a little harder because of the price. I mean, they have to. They have considered homeschooling now because their kids are just not learning in a virtual setting.

And I think a lot of these people feel like whatever it takes to get my kids out of these public schools now. So I think the school closures have caused that, but I think there’s another issue that has contributed to people wanting to get their kids out of public schools. And that is the fact that schools have become so politically active and agitators. The teachers, some teachers they see themselves as activists, as agitators. And when I say politically active, I don’t mean just they’re presenting both positions. No, by and large, public school teachers are pushing a radical leftist agenda. I mean, I have Democrat friends who are nervous about some of the things their kids are coming home saying and things that are presented in school.

So, I mean, I think for some teachers, it is very radical. And what I mean by that is for instances the stories and you see the stories. If you’re on Twitter, you see these stories. And if you’re watching the news, there are some reports at least on Fox News and some of the other conservative radio, you hear about children as young as kindergartners being fed political messages about gender, race, sexuality, and complex issues about sexuality, complex issues and not even widely agreed upon issues of gender and race. And again, sexuality and also the environment. They don’t just talk about the need to be a good steward of the Earth or don’t literally turn your lights off. These are not the messages that I heard way back in the ’80s. These are things like doom and gloom and we have about 12 more minutes to live, and then the Earth is going to explode.

I mean, it’s some really scary language being used on kids. And we see this and there’ve been reports about the higher rates of anxiety among kids. You have young people who’ve declared, “I’m not having kids because I don’t want to raise children in a fiery doom scape.” So this does really affect young people and it affects kids. And increasingly, kids are being told sort of on the history aspect of things, the American history and learning about American history, kids are increasingly being told to be ashamed of their country that America is a deeply racist country that all inequities among the races are entire because of systemic racism, that white supremacy reigns.

And this is I think the most dangerous thing that you hear kids are being told. “Look, this system is designed against you. This system is designed to harm you, to harm people of color, to harm women, to harm immigrants. It will never get better.” I mean, what kind of message is that to children? That is a terrible message to send to a child, especially in a country where there are so many wonderful stories. There are so many great stories about people overcoming adversity and really making a great life for themselves. So it’s very disappointing that so often the good stories … And look, I am not someone who says, “Okay, we should teach kids that life is wonderful like Leave It to Beaver and these wonderful ’50s television shows that we’re all super saccharin and avoid anything bad that ever happened in American history.”

No, I’m not saying that, but I’m saying to present America as this horrible place. And also it’s important to say uniquely horrible. Not just America’s bad, but America is the worst place in the world is I think a very dangerous message. So here to talk to me about the current state of education and how parents can fight back and take back some of the control for their children’s education is Rachel Gerli. Hi, Rachel.

Rachel:

Hey Julie, so good to talk to you again.

Julie:

It’s great. Now, listen, I always read everyone’s official bio, because I think it’s important to really give the listeners some information about them, but I love yours. So let me just really quickly. Rachel, by day, Rachel is a full-time management consultant and by night she is a short-order cook, a taxi driver, and a homeschool teacher for her son. Yay. Homeschool. Along with her good friend, Alison Pillinger Choi and Britt Riner, she launched an awesome new website called Primerrily, a resource for parents seeking to raise children with a knowledge of civics, American history, and an appreciation for our country’s founding values.

I almost cried. I literally read that last line and I was like, “Oh, an appreciation for our country’s founding.” It’s wonderful. So welcome, Rachel. I’m glad you’re with me today.

Rachel:

Thank you so much for having me. I wish the other girls could be here, but we’re just so appreciative for all the good work that you do with IWF also you’re a beacon in the darkness.

Julie:

You’re so nice. So let’s just jump in. I became familiar with Primerrily when Naomi Schaefer Riley, who was also a guest on my podcast a couple of months ago, told me about you guys and she said, “Julie, you’ve got to check this out. It’s amazing. I think you’ll really enjoy it.” And she had known about IWF’s own sort of venturing into this area of helping parents directly. And so, she knew that I would love it. And I’m telling you, I can still remember when I looked at your website, I thought, “Holy cow, someone is finally doing it. It’s giving parents these resources they need.”

So, I was jumping up and down and I of course sent it to everybody, all the women at IWF. And I know your website is currently being used and very popular among us. So thank you so much for that. But tell me why. Well, first of all, what is Primerrily? I want to hear it from you and tell me a little bit about why you and Allison and Britt decided to launch the site.

Rachel:

Of course. So, as you mentioned, Primerrily is a parenting resource, and right now it exists online. We just launched a podcast yesterday actually. It’s currently only a read-along and some of our articles, but busy moms were asking and a social media community. So we are just hoping to support parents with ideas that instill those founding values that you love: respect, dignity, character, duty, empathy, heritage. We want to make civics fun and patriotism cool and civility about old school kindness, not political correctness.

And we realized if we didn’t get involved and simply allowed mainstream media culture and the existing public education system to raise our kids, we were raising woke children. And as intentional parents, that wasn’t what we were intending. So we recognized there was an opportunity for this.

Julie:

That’s so great. And it’s interesting that you say if we didn’t do it ourselves because truly no one else was doing it. You said we are raising woke children. And I want to talk a little bit about that because there’s this interesting phenomenon that I’ve noticed. So my kids are a little bit older. My oldest is 13 and I have a 10-year-old and then I have one in the middle. And so, I have noticed with some of the moms in my older group, they are all of a sudden very concerned. Because their children are coming home parroting stuff. They say to me, “I don’t know where she gets this stuff. I don’t understand where she gets this stuff.”

And I’m like, “Well, I’m glad you have finally woken up because she’s getting it at school.” And so, it’s funny how there’s been this sort of delay. But I will say, I think it’s gotten worse in the last couple of years. I feel like-

Rachel:

It absolutely has.

Julie:

Yeah. Talk to me about that.

Rachel:

You’re so right. Well, the schoolroom, the entertainment media and technology industries, all sectors of the American economy, in addition to our government have adopted this cancel culture mentality. We’re spiraling. The one place where a kid can share ideas and ask questions about what’s going on in the public sphere without fear, retribution is at home. Cancel culture doesn’t serve children. In true practice, we can’t cancel behaviors we don’t like. Children cannot say to us, “I don’t like to brush my teeth. It’s canceled.”

We can’t say to them, “This tantrum is canceled.” And if we could, we haven’t addressed the behavior for next time. So it’s an easy out. And that’s why your series about how to talk to kids about these things is so valuable. And we are trying to build on that for even younger, more of like the preschool and early elementary ages to do activities and books and games that echo those messages. So we’re playing often so they know how we feel about fights in the womb before it comes up in school or before when their friends say something that she heard from a parent who maybe has different ideological beliefs than we do.

Julie:

Yeah, that is so great. And I want to talk a little bit about the demographics that you’re reaching and who IWF is reaching with our how-to. And for listeners who aren’t aware, I think I’ve mentioned this, but for any new listeners, IWF has launched this How to Talk to Kids series. We’ve done one on the Electoral College, which is a very complicated issue and it’s really helpful to have that guide. I just completed one on environmental issues. We’ve done one on women’s right to vote.

We just launched it in the fall of 2020. So there’ll be a lot more coming up. And you all, my goodness, Primerrily has so many. I just looked through the website. I mean, keeping civility and civil rights, carrying on MLK’s legacy. Native American Heritage Day used to be called Thanksgiving. But how do you talk to your kids about the name change, right? I love this one. Trick or treating teaches taxation. That is brilliant. You touch on Amy-

Rachel:

You love a mom tax. Any time a kid comes home with a treat it’s like, “Sorry, 25% out of that cupcake for mom.”

Julie:

Well, I’ll tell you, you also touch on current issues. Amy Coney Barrett, the 1619 Project. I mean, you have such a great library and catalog of issues, but I will say this. I put this up on the piece that I submitted to Primerrily, What Do You Do When Your Child’s Teacher Preaches Politics? I talked a little bit about my background and I think this is definitely true of you ladies is that I feel because of my background in policy, I I’ve always felt prepared to talk to my kids about things. My son just the other day said, “Hey mom, why is raising the minimum wage bad?” And now I was able to explain it to him very easily.

But I have friends that aren’t in the policy sector. I have one friend who’s an event planner, and she has talked to me about how she feels unprepared to talk about certain political issues with her child, even though she is conservative, but she has trouble sometimes explaining her positions. And so, these guides are so helpful to people who might not have sort of the talking points at the ready. And yours, in particular, you mentioned a younger demographic. Starting young is the way to do it.

If you really want to get control of this and let’s say you can’t you work and you can’t do homeschool or you can’t afford private school, like a Catholic private school or any a Methodist Catholic school. I just said a Methodist Catholic school or whatever, a parochial school or a private school, a religious private school doing stuff at home, talking to your kids at home is the way to do it.

Rachel:

Absolutely. And I actually love the article that Allie Choi wrote on this topic on our website. And she says that the first thing you should do when the kids bring up those issues is asking them questions right back. So she had a 1st grader who came home from school and had just done a week-long segment on Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old climate change activists. They have not covered George Washington yet. So the order of operations felt a little off there and we’re total believers in what Lincoln said that the philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of government and the next.

So, if we’re taking our dinner tables back and turning them into classrooms, then any time a kid comes back and says, “Mom, Julie told me at school that her mom’s not voting for Donald Trump.” Like, “Oh, did Julie say why her mom said that? Do you care what Julie thinks? Who would you vote for?” By asking questions, you can figure out where a lot of the direction is coming. Worst case scenario, it’s the teacher. In the best-case scenario, it’s the friends.

And you are in control of your child’s schedule. You affect the playdates. You can ask them to be moved in class. Or better yet, you can prepare them to say back to Julie, “Julie, I recognize we’re too young to vote, but here’s how I feel, and here’s how my family feels.” And they can be a leader in that situation instead of someone who has to react to something that they didn’t know about beforehand.

Julie:

What do you tell parents, Rachel? What do you tell parents whose teacher is just determined to bring up politics in the classroom or broaches subjects that are just inappropriate? What do you tell parents? What should they do?

Rachel:

The sage on the stage we call that. It’s more common than you’d realize. But the first thing that I would do, whether or not I think that my child’s teacher is in that camp is asked for a copy of the curriculum, know what your child is going to be learning and when. And when you see that a section is coming up on something that might be able to be swayed to a more progressive point of view, make sure your child knows all about it and your position on it before they go to a school that week. The best thing you can do is be first. Play offense instead of defense.

Julie:

That’s really smart. And these guides, the guides that you are producing are really helpful for parents because I find them also very friendly in terms of they’re a pleasure to read. And that’s what parents need is just a little bit of information to prepare their children. I mean, it’s hard to prepare your children if you don’t understand the issue. So that’s why these resources are so important. One thing I would also tell parents and just to add to that. I know listeners will be shocked to hear that I’ve been sort of aggressive in talking to teachers when I disagree with something. I will go straight to them and say, “I disagree with you.”

I’ve had sit-down meetings with teachers and I’ve said, “This is really not appropriate.” And this is the thing I’ll tell you. It really has worked for me because, one, I think teachers think parents just don’t want to be controversial or don’t want to confront them. And also some teachers may not realize, “Okay, this is not an appropriate topic.” But I think if you actually do that, I think people would be surprised that there is the willingness on the part of some teachers to maybe back off of it a little or change things. I had a teacher announce in a classroom that all pesticides are toxic and that they hurt the Earth. Well, I grew up in farm country and I know that’s not true. I know this isn’t the most controversial thing, but my son came home and it was part of this whole environmental curriculum that was going on.

I went in and I talked to her and I said that I don’t think this is the appropriate thing to say. When pesticides are used properly, they’re not toxic or they don’t automatically hurt the Earth. And the greatest thing is that the teacher let my son get up and talk about it and say my mom writes on this issue and they’re not all bad. And it was a great learning experience for both the kids in the classroom. And the teacher was very kind to give him that opportunity and to change her learning, her teaching strategy on that.

Rachel:

I love that.

Julie:

I do think that sometimes actually being … and I don’t mean confrontational, I was very polite when I talked to her, but-

Rachel:

Absolutely and I think it’s all about that relationship. There was an article that we published during back to school that had some recommended verbiage to send a note to your child’s teacher on the first day. And I think we enclosed Starbucks gift cards in ours too and just said, “It is so nice to meet you. We are so thrilled to have so-and-so in your class this year. We look forward to partnering with you to raise our children.”

Because a lot of the time teachers feel the burden that they are solely in charge of education. And we wanted to make it clear up front that we are taking full charge of our child, what’s put into his mind. And we recognize that that’s a partnership we have with the teacher. So you establish that relationship so that the door’s open to going back when those situations arise.

Julie:

You know one thing, Rachel, I want to say, I so appreciate what you’ve put together here is also the importance of being kind. You had that list that you have on your website, too. It’s at the very beginning where you talk about your mission and what you’re trying to instill in children and words like courage and forgiveness, charity, duty, compassion. Compassion is such a good one to teach in children. Faith and perseverance, and friendship and diligence. I also love self-discipline and moderation, humility. These are wonderful. Gratitude, tolerance, patience, awareness. Those are just wonderful concepts to really remember about teaching children.

But this is the other thing is you really are on the teachers’ side. Because if you as a parent teach your children those things, teaching becomes easier. And a child who has respect and gratitude who approaches issues with humility is aware of his surroundings, is patient with his teacher, and demonstrates moderation and self-discipline, this makes him chill. This makes a good child, a child that’s easy to teach. And so, if anything, I see you as a wonderful resource, not just for parents, but also teachers should be promoting this. Please teach these things to your child, be a partner with me and help me.

Rachel:

And you would love for teachers to use this, right? Wouldn’t that be amazing?

Julie:

It would be. It would be. Go ahead.

Rachel:

One of the things that I would be remiss not to say is that it also doesn’t just fall if you’re homeschooling and you have a ton of time. Like you mentioned, I have a full-time job. I’m not a full-time mom, unfortunately, but these aren’t like to sit down lessons. It’s things like on your kid’s birthday, hand them two envelopes every year, one with a new privilege and one with a new responsibility to teach them that with age comes more responsibility, but also potentially more freedoms. Or in your routine, just say the Pledge of Allegiance before you head to school each day on holidays, not just Christmas. But look up all the holidays in your town and in our country and expand the things you celebrate more than Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Celebrate the day your time was incorporated, Election Day, the anniversary of the moon landing, the defense of the Alamo. Anything you can find in that American almanac. You’re serving dessert anyway, put a candle on the cookie and say it’s an American celebration. Not everything has to be a patriotic cupcake, but there’s a lot more in that vein on our website of ideas that aren’t a heavy lift, but you can just incorporate into things that you’re already doing.

Julie:

That’s so great. Talk to me a little bit, I want to shift just a teeny bit because you are a homeschooler and I’m a brand new homeschooler. I don’t know how old your son is and if you want to say that on here, but I’m sort of new to it with my 13-year-old. And I’d love to hear a little bit about your own journey to homeschooling, and maybe also a little bit on how you think the shutdowns have changed people’s impression of education in general and schooling for their kids. I know that’s a lot to unpack, but just in general I’m interested in your thoughts.

Rachel:

Absolutely. Well, on that I’ll confess, I’m not a full homeschooler. So, my son, he’s only two and a half so he goes to playschool from 9:00 to noon each day. And then after a nap in the evenings is what we call mom time. And during mom time, we learn about money, but we learn about all the icons on the currency. And this one has Thomas Jefferson and this one is Abraham Lincoln and their stories, and we read children’s books. It’s such great fun. And I have so much respect for people that homeschool full-time. But because of my job, it’s not an option for me right now. But schools to your point, I think when it went remote in March or April of last year, parents started hearing what the teachers were saying and they were either horrified or completely absent.

And when children started parroting that a little bit at home, you had a hint that that was happening, but until you saw it on the screen, it’s just a different story. And I mean, as you know, America is more divided than ever. There are so many movements meant to divide us into identity-based groups and that is true of school as well. I mean, the very fact that impeachment proceedings are still happening shows there’s a lack of willingness for people to move forward and unite. Why do we expect that to happen in the classroom too? Remember, agree to disagree, the phrase from when we were younger?

Julie:

Yeah.

Rachel:

That’s completely gone-

Julie:

How quaint.

Rachel:

Right? Remember? Unless we teach them what tolerance is, that’s going to just disappear completely.

Julie:

Right, right and tolerance of thought of different thoughts. I mean, that is always left out of the equation when you’re talking to someone on the left. If you have a varying opinion or a different thought on an issue. I mean, I’ve never seen a word used so much as Nazi today. It has no meaning anymore. There are so many words that have no meaning anymore, but I think you’re right.

I actually did a podcast with a colleague at IWF and I had all three of my children in public school and my youngest two were still in elementary school, which wasn’t as bad. But my oldest had gone into middle school and that’s when it really started to get bad and both the indoctrination and actually just the quality of education. I mean, and the politics saturated everything. I remember in literature class, it’s language arts and the project was talking about things like how gender is just a social construct. I mean, this is in language arts. They should be learning grammar. They should be mapping sentences. They should be learning the rules of the language of the English language.

And instead, they were reading these totally woke passages. And even the literature they were being asked to read was this modern woke kids lit, which was just awful. So to me at that point, we were done and we ended up pulling two of our kids out of the public school because our second child was then going to be going into that middle school. And my youngest is still in public school now, but next year he’ll probably go to the parochial school with my middle son who we put. But I am fully homeschooling my oldest and I can not tell you the difference.

First of all, he’s gone through one year’s curriculum because he loves it so much and he’s went through it so quickly. And I told this story on the last podcast that my son had an IEP. And so, he had certain accommodations at school and one of the teachers, because it’s an ADHD because of his attention issues. He had found writing very difficult because his mind races and then sometimes the mechanics of writing, he just can’t keep up. So writing has always been difficult for him. And because he had difficulty writing, they convinced me at a young age to just give up, he’ll never be a good, good writer, and he should just use voice to computer tech technology. And they literally pounded that into me and eventually, I gave in.

So, after two months of homeschooling him and he started out with terrible penmanship because again, he just was never told to write. They had given up on him. His penmanship is beautiful, beautiful. And because of the curriculum that we use, which does a lot of copy work and memorization, his grammar is beautiful. He writes beautiful sentences with perfect penmanship. I just tell that story to everyone that I can because in two months of homeschooling and I’m also part-time homeschooling because he does have a tutor come in on two days a week. And we’ll talk offline because it can be done because I work full-time too.

But it can be done if you want to pursue it, but with a little bit of help. But I will tell you that story, that story I tell to me it’s like this is the possibilities to give your child a really excellent education are possible. And it’s most likely not through the public schools. I hate to make generalizations like that, but at least here in the D.C. area in the Washington D.C. area, it certainly wasn’t.

Rachel:

And I love that you share that story, Julie, because I do think that America’s become such a back porch society, where we just look at our own kids and parents in our own bubble. And we long for those days when mothers and grandmothers would sit on the front porch and keep an eye on the neighborhood children. And that’s what you and what we are trying to do in the digital community is just share what we’re learning, encourage each other to say, “Don’t believe everything that you’re told by the educator.” Take charge of your family and take charge of your children’s education. And thank you.

Julie:

Well, listen, Rachel, I honestly think just the world of you and this project, and I’m so encouraged by it. I think you’ve really tapped into a need. I mean, if we’re looking at this from a business perspective if you’re trying to look… What is a need that has not been fulfilled yet? This is it. This is it. And I think with the shutdowns, I think with people leaving the public schools out of frustration, for a variety of reasons, they’re going to look for these kinds of resources.

And at IWF, we’re going to do whatever we can to keep promoting what you’re doing. I know personally, I’ve sent this out. I sent your website out to roughly a thousand people. So I really want to compliment you and thank you as a mother for providing this great content.

Rachel:

Well, thank you so much for doing all that you’ve done. We really believe that if you can change a generation, you can change the world. And we only have control in one generation. So we appreciate you spreading the word.

Julie:

Well, one last thing, before we go. Can you just give listeners just sort of the quick info on where to reach you and the Primerrily website and anything else, any new projects coming up, or anything you want to promote?

Rachel:

Absolutely. So you can find us Primerrily is a portmanteau of primer and merrily like the New England Primer of education and merrily down the stream. So it’s spelled differently than it sounds. To solve that, we have bought parentingapatriot.com, which we’ll redirect you to Primerrily. So if you have ideas around how you’re raising your children with these values, share them with us, become a contributor. If you have children, follow us. If you’re a godparent or a grandparent, the more the merrier.

And if you believe in our mission, definitely reach out and encourage us because it does fill our hearts to hear that there are so many families from California to Kentucky in the same boat as us. Raising children’s not a task, it’s a mission. And when you’re on a mission, you need a team. So we are grateful to be on your team and to have you on ours. Thanks so much, Julie.

Julie:

Thanks, Rachel. And I, again, be in touch with us. If there are any updates or anything you want to share, you have a welcome home here on the Bespoke Parenting Hour Podcast. And we’d love to continue to promote and update our listeners on all that you do. So thanks again.

Rachel:

Thank you so much.

Julie:

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