Spencer Klavan, host of Young Heretics and author of the book How to Save the West: Ancient Wisdom for Five Modern Crises, rejoins the podcast to talk about the tricky relationship between art and morality. Spencer and Inez share a wide-ranging discussion about whether there’s actually an identity between truth and beauty (with all due respect to Keats), what aesthetics reveal about “inner beauty,” whether portraying the seductiveness of evil holds dangers for the viewer’s heart, and the relationship between art and artist. They also dive into the thorny question of boundaries around art and what, if any, restrictions society ought to place on artistic expression.